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Getting Started in Scalping, Ultra Short-Term Trading

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Originally, scalping was a term used to define trading that captured the spread. Buying the bid and selling the offer. Over time the term has become more widely used and now people use it to describe many different styles of trading. I guess the reality is that the word scalping doesn’t mean much any more. It’s become overused and now it’s really a matter of opinion of what defines a scalp and what doesn’t. In this presentation, I’m going to stick to trading techniques that are closer to the original definition of scalping – starting out with techniques that focus on capturing the spread. We will of course talk about techniques that grab more than 1 tick because even a market maker looking to capture the spread will take more if it’s on the table. It’s not as if scalpers are intentionally leaving money on the table by taking just 1 tick from a trade. It’s just that scalpers are working from a completely different perspective. So todays webinar is more about the perspective, the decision making process than the amount of ticks profit or loss. And perspectives really are different. A longer term day trader might be looking at support and resistance, trying to figure out what sort of day type it is, what the MACD is doing, where the value area was yesterday and so on scalpers, certainly those in their purest spread capturing form simply DO NOT CARE about any of this stuff. With a different perspective, they make decisions based on different factors, factors that are often very short lived and that change minute to minute. Not only are perspectives different, so are the win rates. In fact the win rate of a scalper is often what many traders would consider ‘outrageously high’. I know a scalper whose stats are: 85% wins, 10% scratches, 5% losses. Of course, these stats don’t include bids or offers that get placed but never get filled and where the market leaves without you. Missed trades, which are a big part of scalping. Now – if you came across a web site promising you an 85% win rate, you’d most likely think it was a scam and in all probability you would be absolutely correct. But we aren’t talking about risking 5 ticks to make 20 ticks here. We are talking about very small targets and trades where there is a momentary high probability opportunity which is very short lived. If you considered typical retail commission on the S&P500 of $4.00 per turn, then a losing single tick trade will cost you $16.50 but a winning trade would get you $8.50. So of course, the win rate has to be higher. It wouldn’t work otherwise. It also makes sense that you use a deep discount broker, get onto some sort of program with the CME (such as the IIP program that knocks 66c off the CME Fees for the ES). The higher win rate does not make scalping better or scalpers smarter traders. It just means that scalping is different. For more info, see: http://www.jigsawtrading.com/
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gary maisey (1 year ago)
thanks for sharing your detailed knowledge and experience, refreshing factual and no bs
Jigsaw Trading (1 year ago)
No problem Gary - get in touch if you have any questions.
Andrin Ratiste (1 year ago)
Very good video Jigsaw! Thanks for doing those vids :)
Jigsaw Trading (1 year ago)
Thanks Andrin
Mike S (1 year ago)
Am I wrong for just trading the flow of price by getting a rhythm of the market and just paying attention to where price naturally runs into support and resistant by just looking at the DOM? I haven't been spending much time paying attention to the orders of larger traders. Sometimes I do but for the most part I just follow price and get a feel for it. It is more like unconscious intuitive price recognition.
Mike S (1 year ago)
Thanks I have gotten a lot better at it. I have added a 10 tick line chart just to recall levels and movement and then paying attention to how price is defended and attacked. Sometimes I just play the ranges. I hope to one day talk Gary Norden into taking my money to teach me what he does.
Jigsaw Trading (1 year ago)
Mike - it's simply trading the position in the queue. The market is just churning at a price. As you get closer to the front of the queue you decide if you still want to be in the trade or not. Target is the opposite side of the spread. A 1 tick trade where you'd be looking at trading multiple lots.
MrCord13 (1 year ago)
Very good information. This actually makes scalping very comprehensive. Thanks for all of this knowledge in this video.
E (2 years ago)
You will get killed trading like this nowadays. A lot of these tricks worked a few years ago but not anymore. I have seen entire prop firms disappear that used to make money doing this.
Peter Chen (9 months ago)
@Anthony LaMarca bro, may I have your email address? I wish to ask you questions. Thanks.
My Cebu (1 year ago)
ditto....i have been trading like this for 5 years with consistent results.
CapricornJY2 (1 year ago)
are they hiring?
Anthony LaMarca (2 years ago)
I disagree. I trade like this and here is my twitter account documenting it. https://twitter.com/mr_p0ckets
Jigsaw Trading (2 years ago)
And I know people that do it on a daily basis. I know of at least 5 prop shops starting up right now that will use these techniques.
Juan Ramón Oltra (2 years ago)
Great video. Thanks!
Jigsaw Trading (2 years ago)
Thanks Juan

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